From: Jack R. Venrick
[jacksranch@skynetbb.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 10:54 PM
To: AJack R. Venrick
Subject: RE: Interesting little jewel for Ric
and Jack -
Rick
–
Just
fished you out of my Spam folder as I had to power up my shields years ago
never the less you will come straight through after this email. Sorry for the delay.
A
quick search of this subject follows:
·
It appears the Clean Water Restoration Act has died per this
report - https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/111/s787. “God save the Queen”. The global to local green locust have taken a
broad side cannon ball just above the water line on their next level of taking
going to non navigable waters, e.g. ditches in your field, aka your drain
field.... The jurisdiction taking appears to be dead as it was first presented
but we all know their game is being redefined behind the curtains for the next
wizard to present it to Dorothy/Judy Garland.
·
However H.R. 4024 “Ensuring access to Clean Water Act of 2014
has been introduced targeting chemical storage facilities which seems innocent
enough but we all know where the next step is headed - https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hr4024/text?utm_campaign=govtrack_feed&utm_source=govtrack/feed&utm_medium=rss
·
As of 4-21-14 they are at it again and here’s the latest - https://www.buffalonews.com/city-region/environment/reed-collins-oppose-planned-rules-targeting-air-water-pollution-20140421
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As of 12-13-13 The New American (John Birch) covers it well here
- https://www.buffalonews.com/city-region/environment/reed-collins-oppose-planned-rules-targeting-air-water-pollution-20140421
·
Here is my site data on this which has not been updated since
2011 or so - https://www.freedomforallseasons.org/FreedomFromWaterTakings.asp
·
If I were to walk out on the plank on my ship anchored in
Enumclaw soon to sail to Rollins Montana, I would wager the states may” wake
up” a bit and move toward less taking from the fed post Bundy/BLM but they will
in turn try to take it all themselves......”there is no honor among thieves.”
·
Re. your attached letter to King Communist County PA residing in
HoSeaMin City referencing the WA state
“constitutions” ...they are both illegitimate, i.e. 1878
AND the 1889. See table at top of
this web page for quick overview of the facts gathered to date - https://www.freedomforallseasons.org/FreedomFromTheStateofWashingtonCONstitutionThatNeverWas.asp
·
Letter embedded is a police action “Mother May I” position
statement as a “CYA” for themselves from the territorial/”constitutional” state
child King County municipal corporation to expand its nonexistent police powers
to Lake Washington, this does relate to EPA Clean Water Act in my mind, it is
“apples and oranges” or better said “sea weed and fresh water toxic
algae”..ha-ha.
·
Constitutions may only
limit the government and their employees.
They can not limit the sovereign and free state Citizens.
·
Travel is a unalienable right not a privilege to be regulated
whether on land, sea or fresh water.
Compulsory regulations on your rights, a.k.a. birth rights cannot be
enforced thru constitutional words as they apply on to government employees,
i.e. they can only regulate themselves not their boss.
·
We regulate ourselves thru grand and trial juries after the fact
of physical injury not before the fact via encroachment of “fear” based
by centralized municipal monarchy monopolies for their own self bestowed power
and financial gain. Otherwise there would be no end to compulsory regulations.
·
Compulsory regulations,
usury and taxes upon sovereign and free natural born or rightfully naturalized
go against LONANG, Declaration of Independence and the spirit and success of
the first American Revolution.
·
The chess game has been long fixed and is continually compounded
with more fixing and the chess board is
not level.
·
We are playing poker for our private and public property and our
wages and our lives. the Brotherhood of
Darkness hold all the chips, we hold all the rightful power, all we have to do
is stand up and throw over the table.
Jack
From: Ric F [mailto:lf1836@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 3:04
PM
To: Roni Bell Sylvester;
jacksranch@skynetbb.com
Subject: Re: Interesting little jewel
for Ric and Jack -
The
EPA is regulated under the Commerce Clause and only has jurisdiction over "Waters
of the U.S.". "Waters of the U.S." and navigation by Original
Intent is a vessel capable at MINIMUM 13 tons of draft that is used in
conducting commerce between the states and foreign nations. Irrigation, rain
puddles and ephemeral streams (arroyos) do NOT fit this description and thus
why they have been working so hard to convert the definition by in-house
regulations. Notice that Congress has NEVER change the definition of "navigable
waters". I know the Rappanos decision and the Cook County case out of
Chicago have addressed this issue with the Rappanos being reversed to some
degree in recent years. The Cook County case is where the gravel pit owner had
to fight the Army Corp on jurisdiction and the gravel pit owner won due to the
gravel pit not qualifying for interstate commerce.
r
My question: Has the EPA Clean water act changed
this jurisdictional standing (highlighted)?
Seems the whole of said act is reliant upon whether or not a body of water is
"navigable" by its original definition including "interstate
commerce" as opposed to "intrastate." rms
The board of King county commissioners may make and enforce policing
regulations upon Lake Washington, subject to the limitations that they may not
constitute a burden upon interstate commerce, nor conflict with the exercise of
the admiralty and maritime jurisdiction of the United States as set forth in
Title 33, U.S.C.A.
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April 23, 1953
Honorable Charles O. Carroll
Prosecuting Attorney
King County
County City Building
Seattle, Washington
Cite as: AGO 53-55 No. 18
Attention: K. G. Smiles, Chief Deputy
Dear Sir:
We
acknowledge receipt of your request for our opinion regarding the question of
the jurisdiction of the King County commissioners to adopt reasonable
regulations governing the operation of vessels on Lake Washington.
Our
conclusions may be stated as follows:
The
board of King County commissioners may make and enforce police regulations upon
Lake Washington, so long as those regulations do not constitute a burden upon
interstate commerce, nor conflict with the admiralty or maritime jurisdiction
of the United States.
ANALYSIS
The
power of a county to make police regulations is derived from the Constitution,
Article XI, section 11, which reads as follows:
"Any
county, city, town or township, may make and enforce within its limits all such
local, police, sanitary and other regulations as are not in conflict with
general laws."
[[Orig. Op. Page 2]]
Notwithstanding
this constitutional provision, two additional questions must be answered in
determining whether the county has jurisdiction in such matters. First,
has the state of Washington assumed exclusive policing jurisdiction over either
the area or the subject matter? Second, has the United States been vested
with exclusive jurisdiction in either respect?
The
constitutional provision above quoted answers any apparent jurisdictional
conflict between the state and a county on the basis of geographical
location. The constitution vests policing jurisdiction in the county,
within its geographical limits. Lake Washington is, of course, in King
County. Consequently, the county has police jurisdiction over the area so
long as those regulations are not in conflict with general (state) laws.
This leads to the second phase of the question, has the state assumed exclusive
jurisdiction over the subject matter?
The
state has established laws governing the operation of motorboats. RCW
88.12.020 provides:
"A
motorboat shall be driven in a careful and prudent manner on waters in the
state and at a speed no greater than is reasonable and proper under the
conditions at the time and place of operation, taking into account the amount
and character of traffic, size of the waters, freedom from obstruction to view
ahead, and so as not to unreasonably endanger persons or property or other
rights of any person entitled to the use of such waters."
The
statute obviously makes no attempt to lay down the precise limits of the
operation of motorboats. It is a general requirement defining the
ultimate objective to be accomplished. It is our opinion that the
legislature clearly contemplated that counties, or other political subdivisions
of the state might, under their general police powers, define with greater
exactness the limits of motorboat operations. The state has not assumed
exclusive jurisdiction over the subject matter. Such regulations would
not conflict with the statute above quoted.
The
second question is whether or not the United States has assumed exclusive
policing jurisdiction over the waters of the lake. We are advised by your
letter that the Coast Guard regulates speed of vessels when crew races and
other activities are being conducted on Lake Washington. This may be done,
of course, either by reason of the express or implied consent of local
authorities, or by virtue of some policing jurisdiction vested in the United
States.
[[Orig. Op. Page 3]]
The
possible conflict between federal and county jurisdiction may again be divided
into the questions of territorial jurisdiction and jurisdiction over the
subject matter. Within certain areas of the state, exclusive police
jurisdiction has been ceded to the federal government for various reasons.
Upon the waters of Lake Washington there appears to be two such areas.
The first is the Sand Point Naval Air Base and its immediately surrounding
area. The second is an area in the southern portion of the lake used for
ship storage. Although we are unable to ascertain the extent of the
second area, or even its exact status at the present time, we assume that the
area is small enough that a determination of its status is not material to the
ultimate conclusion. We conclude, therefore, that there is at least one,
and possibly two, geographical areas in Lake Washington over which King County
may not exercise police jurisdiction.
The
last question is whether the United States has exclusive jurisdiction by reason
of the subject matter sought to be controlled. This raises a most
difficult problem, because of the apparent conflict between the rules governing
local police jurisdiction and those pertaining to admiralty and maritime
jurisdiction.
The basic rule is that the police power of the
state extends to all navigable waters within its limits provided it does not
interfere with the power of Congress to regulate navigation and commerce with
foreign nations and among the several states. Riley v. Rohde,
1934, A.M.C. 1292. It follows, of course, that this police jurisdiction
may be delegated by the state to its political subdivisions within the limits
stated. In A.M.C. digest to the case ofPeople v. Reilly, 1939
A.M.C. 1240, this rule is stated as follows:
"A
municipality may impose reasonable police regulations on maritime craft within
the particular locality under the jurisdiction of the municipality in the
interests of public safety and welfare."
However, municipal regulations of craft within theadmiralty jurisdiction
are ineffective where Congress has already covered the field by
legislation. United Dredging Co. v. Los Angeles, 1926 A.M.C. 426.
It
is, of course, well settled that any act of
Congress on any phase of interstate commerce supersedes any state statute which
is in conflict therewith. It appears to be equally well settled
that when the national legislature enters any field of regulation into which it
is constitutionally admissible, the state legislature, already occupying the
same field, must get out even though no statutory expression of the national
legislature has as yet come into conflict with the state regulations. McNeely
and Price v. Philadelphia Piers, 1939, A.M.C. 1435.
[[Orig. Op. Page 4]]
The
above rules indicate that, within the realm of regulation or control of
interstate and foreign commerce, the United States enjoys exclusive
jurisdiction, while its admiralty jurisdiction may be concurrent with local
police jurisdiction, at least until Congress preempts the legislative
field. This would establish the proposition that no political subdivision
of the state could enforce any police ordinance which would constitute a
regulation of interstate or foreign commerce. Whether it could enforce any police
regulations upon navigable waters depends entirely upon whether those
regulations would infringe upon a field already legislated upon by Congress.
Title
33, U.S.C.A. indicates a broad field which has been preempted by act of Congress.
It includes rules and regulations governing navigation, lights, navigation
warnings, fixing of channels, certain harbor developments, some anchorage
grounds, obstructions to navigation, and many related matters. Likewise,
the federal jurisdiction is exclusive with respect to all civil actions arising
under the admiralty jurisdiction vested in the United States by the
constitution.
There
is no indication in this title that the federal government has ever attempted
to supersede the police power of the state with regard to purely intrastate operations. Nor
is there any indication that policing jurisdiction over criminal matters of a
purely local nature was intended to be superseded in any way.
The
jurisdiction and authority of the Coast Guard with respect to law enforcement,
is set forth in Title 14, § 89 (a), U.S.C.A. This jurisdiction is also
dual in nature, being tied directly to Title 33 as regards subject matter, and,
broadly speaking, reaching all navigable waters, geographically. The test of whether a body of water is navigable in
law is whether it is navigable in fact. State of Arizona v.
State of California, 51 S.Ct. 522, 283 U.S. 423, 75 L.Ed. 1154. There
is no doubt that the waters of Lake Washington are navigable waters as a matter
of law. The lake is clearly within the geographical jurisdiction of the
Coast Guard. As indicated above, however, we see no indication in Title
33 that the federal government ever intended to, and we entertain some doubt if
it ever could, assume exclusive policing jurisdiction over the waters of Lake
Washington.
We
recognize, of course, that the Coast Guard has, on many occasions, taken over
the burden of the enforcement of policing regulations upon the lake. This
has undoubtedly been done as a convenience to local authorities, as a matter of
comity, but not by virtue of any superior or exclusive jurisdiction in the
United States. Probably, the most definite statement that can be made
regarding police jurisdiction upon the lake is that, in some cases, the
dividing line between the federal and local fields becomes so vague and
indefinite that such jurisdiction becomes substantially concurrent.
[[Orig. Op. Page 5]]
It
is our conclusion that, except for the two areas indicated in this opinion, the
board of King County commissioners may make and enforce policing regulations
upon Lake Washington, subject to the limitations that they may not constitute a
burden upon interstate commerce, nor conflict with the exercise of the
admiralty and maritime jurisdiction of the United States as set forth in Title
33, U.S.C.A.
Very truly yours,
DON EASTVOLD
Attorney General
RALPH M. DAVIS
Assistant Attorney General